Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/29/2001 03:05 PM House HES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
HB 164-GRANDPARENTS' RIGHTS REGARDING CINA                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL   NO.  164,  "An   Act  prescribing  the   rights  of                                                               
grandparents  related   to  child-in-need-of-aid   hearings;  and                                                               
amending Rules 3, 7, 10, 15, and  19, Alaska Child in Need of Aid                                                               
Rules."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON,  speaking as the  sponsor of HB 164,  explained that                                                               
about three years  ago he worked on adding foster  parents to the                                                               
list of people  who had the right to be  heard in CINA (child-in-                                                               
need-of-aid) case  hearings, which  is what HB  164 is  trying to                                                               
do.   He noted  that [grandparents]  are not  parties in  a legal                                                               
sense.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0645                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
WES  KELLER, Staff  to Representative  Fred  Dyson, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature, gave the sectional analysis of the bill:                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Section  1  inserts  "grandparents" into  the  list  of                                                                    
     those  who must  receive a  notice of  court proceeding                                                                    
     that could result in the  termination of the rights and                                                                    
     responsibilities for  CINA kids - to  determine whether                                                                    
     or not they're CINA kids. ...                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
       Section 2 specifies that the department will give                                                                        
        notice to the grandparent if the grandparent has                                                                        
     contacted the  department and has provided  evidence of                                                                    
     being a  grandparent and a  current address, or  if the                                                                    
     department is  aware that there  is a grandparent.   It                                                                    
     leaves it so  the department does not have  to seek out                                                                    
     every grandparent that might exist. ...                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Section  3 requires  the grandparent  notification when                                                                    
     there is  an informal court hearing  related to custody                                                                    
     and gives  them the right  to be heard in  that context                                                                    
     with  the parent  that tried,  the  foster parents  and                                                                    
     everybody else.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4, then,  requires grandparent notification for                                                                    
     permanency  hearings.  ...  And Section  5  amends  the                                                                    
     Court Rules 3, 7, 10, 15, and 19.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KELLER explained that [Court]  Rule 17 was missed; therefore,                                                               
there is  a proposed  amendment that addresses  this.   The first                                                               
part of the  amendment includes the actual rule in  the bill, and                                                               
the second  part makes grandparents  aware of  the predisposition                                                               
report.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0835                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BETTY SHORT, President, Grandparents Rights Organization,                                                                       
testified via teleconference.  She stated:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     We are very  pleased with the HB 164, which  we feel is                                                                    
     in the best  interest of the child.   The best interest                                                                    
     of the  child is our  main concern.   Most grandparents                                                                    
     are a  stable unit  for these  children, and  when they                                                                    
     are torn  from their  immediately family  by strangers,                                                                    
     it's very devastating  to them, and a  familiar face of                                                                    
     a grandparent  would be very  welcome.  Being  put with                                                                    
     strangers,  we   feel,  is  mentally   and  emotionally                                                                    
     upsetting.    Plus, it  costs  money  for foster  care,                                                                    
     whereas  a lot  of  times the  grandparents could  take                                                                    
     them in without pay or  at least till the situation got                                                                    
     a little  more resolved.   And it  should take  only 48                                                                    
     hours, according to DFYS [Division  of Family and Youth                                                                    
     Services],    to   investigate    a   grandparent    or                                                                    
     grandparents,  but  that investigation  doesn't  always                                                                    
     protect the children. ...                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Division  of Family  and Youth  Services, actually,  on                                                                    
     their   own  could   recognize   and   work  with   the                                                                    
     grandparents.  It would sure  make their job, we think,                                                                    
     a lot easier.  But instead  they have chosen to tell us                                                                    
     that we  have no  rights and that  we are  nothing more                                                                    
     than  strangers and  that we  are  not a  party to  the                                                                    
     case. ...  According to Alaska Statute  [AS] 25.05 they                                                                    
     recognize  the grandparents'  rights.   AS 47.14.100(e)                                                                    
     (1) provides  that the state department  cannot place a                                                                    
     child  in foster  care if  a blood  relative [requests]                                                                    
     placement.      And   AS  47.10.080(p)   provides   the                                                                    
     department may deny visitation  to parents or guardians                                                                    
     or  family   members  only  if   there  is   clear  and                                                                    
     convincing  evidence  that  it   is  not  in  the  best                                                                    
     interest of the child.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LINDA  SLONE,  Grandparents  Rights Organization,  testified  via                                                               
teleconference.  She stated:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     I am  the parent of  four children, adoptive  parent of                                                                    
     three  of those  children,  and a  grandparent.   As  a                                                                    
     grandparent I  ask you to  please pass  HB 164.   It is                                                                    
     vitally important  to the safety and  well-being of our                                                                    
     grandchildren.   Our  grandchildren  are extensions  of                                                                    
     ourselves  -  put simply,  one  more  for us  to  love.                                                                    
     Grandparents  are an  integral part  of the  family and                                                                    
     they  need  to  be  involved in  that  process.    When                                                                    
     grandparents  are willing  and able  to step  up to  be                                                                    
     caretakers  for  their  offspring, the  state  and  the                                                                    
     court  system  should  be required  to  allow  that  to                                                                    
     happen.  The  best hope for providing  for the children                                                                    
     is  the  family  or  extended family  rather  than  the                                                                    
     system.   In  order to  have the  best interest  of the                                                                    
     child in  mind, you  first need to  know what  the best                                                                    
     interests are, and  you could always get  that from the                                                                    
     grandparents.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1120                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOANNE  GIBBENS,  Program  Administrator, Division  of  Family  &                                                               
Youth Services  (DFYS), Department  of Health &  Social Services,                                                               
came forth  in support  of HB  164 as it  currently stands.   She                                                               
said  [DFYS]  would have  some  concern  about the  amendment  in                                                               
regard   to  the   predisposition  report,   not  in   regard  to                                                               
notification of  the hearing.  The  predisposition generally goes                                                               
to the parties only, and this  piece of legislation does not make                                                               
grandparents parties  in terms of  [Court] Rule 2,  which legally                                                               
defines who the parties of the  case are.  She explained that the                                                               
predisposition  report  often contains  confidential  information                                                               
regarding   the  parents,   such  as   extensive  mental   health                                                               
histories.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  stated that he is  not going to pass  [the bill] out                                                               
today and will allow [DFYS] to work that issue out.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
ME. GIBBENS  added that  [DFYS] had  some initial  concerns about                                                               
grandparents who  potentially had a [mental  health] history, but                                                               
she said  she thinks that  is already covered in  the requirement                                                               
regarding the hearing's being in the best interest of the child.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[HB 164 was held over.]                                                                                                         

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